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ofmars's avatar

Plato turns familiar assumptions into enduring questions: Is justice a principle, or merely the language of power?

Top Shelf Theology's avatar

I tried listening to the audiobook last year, and I also was pleasantly surprised to find it's actually a narrative format, like characters come and go and have lives outside of the conversation, and I loved that it started with them doing this after-party, still wearing their party hats and sloshed as it becomes "that time" to get toasted long into the night and talk philosophy. My people!

Amber H's avatar

The triggering of Thrasymachus was one of the most unexpected humorous scenes in a book I have encountered.

The just vs unjust seems so settled ethically these days, yet when you actually look at how the world plays out it's clearly not settled. Socrates touches on the appearance of justice as well later on which is timeless.

David Galinsky's avatar

Mrs. Lillywhite, it is difficult to understand things when concepts are ill defined. Justice and injustice for example. We have come a long way from Plato. Have you considered this definition of Justice as being the absence of Injustice. And Injustice being no recourse to a crime. I very much enjoy reading about your intellectual journey. I learn alot. Take care

Megha Lillywhite's avatar

Yes, but I think even if we’ve moved past this conversation, it seems that elements of it are still recapitulated even to this day, so it’s interesting reading them from so long ago!

David Galinsky's avatar

Exactly. That is why a proper understanding of concepts are needed. I'm simply an old bricklayer trying to understand things. Sometimes simple is best. Thanks for trying to do just that. Take care. Is it not midnight in Italy?

Mary Radzimowski's avatar

Poverty can make people vulnerable in many ways, including morally. This is why people with bad credit or bad debt to income ratios cannot get security clearances.